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Post by Chris_Wendt on Apr 21, 2014 19:58:37 GMT -5
So much for student data sharing under the Common Core Concept.
The 2014 NY State Budget contained a provision that NYSED pull all NY student data from inBloom, and not send any additional data.
This prompted inBloom to take its decision to close down.
However, the Federal Common Core of Data still exists, but this data was and is collected under NCLB and does provide a framework for comparing school, district, county* and state educational performance on standardized assessments and other tests, even though Common Core-based assessments have only been implemented in NY and Kentucky, with field testing taking place this year for more widespread implementation of CC_based assessments among the PARCC states and the SBA states (PARCC & SBA being the two large, mufti-state consortia funded by the federal government to develop CC assessments) NEXT YEAR.
The demise of in Bloom is a significant development, although to what extent this will impact the Common Core Concept is unclear at this time. This certainly seems to nullify one of the primary reasons parents may have had for having their children opt-out of the Common Core Assessments in NY. The Math Assessments start later this month. I guess we'll see if this news changes the opting-out behavior.
Chris Wendt
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Post by rr on Apr 22, 2014 8:12:22 GMT -5
Big victory...
Another company will come in and take the place of inBloom, the concept of data collection, marketing and data mining is not going away. It's a shame that people had to lose jobs as a result of this company DYING.
Right now there are more people getting on line at unemployment, people having to make very hard decisions about their lives because they lost their job because a few people needed to fill their lives with a cause and politicians needed to get those handful of votes so they shut down the oontract with inBloom and a few hundred people lose their livelihood. No big deal in the grand scheme of setting a bad example for the kids...I really despise where this whole thing is going.
It started as a good idea, was poorly implemented, got the unions/PTA's and "educational historians" in an uproar and now its a political hot potato and a media hotspot because its so easy to show facebook memes about and a poorly written math problem to get people into a tizzy and follow the crowd.
Whatever...maybe I just need to accept the fact that our kids are destined for mediocrity and our school tax dollars will continue to be wasted supporting a system that promotes the concept of, as long as you put your time in you're safe for life no matter how disinterested or drunk (see Patch story about Moriches teacher) you become. No need to innovate, engage with kids and learn new ways to educate our children and teach them to love learning and challenge themselves. Just show up and continue doing what you've been doing for the past 20 years despite the fact that the world and technology is passing us by.
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Post by Chris_Wendt on Apr 22, 2014 10:13:13 GMT -5
rr posited that the Common Core "... started as a good idea, was poorly implemented, got the unions/PTA's and "educational historians" in an uproar and now its a political hot potato and a media hotspot...." I would restate thus: "... (CC) started out sounding like a good idea, was poorly implemented, got the unions/PTA's and "educational historians" in an uproar and now its a political hot potato and a media hotspot...." The Common Core Concept, as just a concept, may have been fatally flawed by the scope of its elaboration, meaning by conglomerating the Common Core Curriculum, the Common Core Assessments, the Common Core of Data, and APPR teacher evaluations all together into an amalgamation which had something for almost every group to hate or despise, or feel threatened by. All that happened pre-implementation and peri-implementation. But the nascent Common Core Assessments were being developed rather sanely by the two government-funded state consortia, PARCC and SBA, until New York and Kentucky broke ranks each with their respective consortium of states, jumping the gun by two full years and unilaterally "implementing" (very bad choice of words) their own un-tested, un-vetted "assessments" which bore little or no resemblance to any other state's or group of states' "common core" assessments. The designers, the elaborators, the implementers, especially NY Education Commissioner King and NY Regents Chancellor Tisch, and U.S. Education Secretary Duncan all bear and share responsibility for the ham-handed manner in which the common core concept was birthed. This goes to lack of political astuteness, and to lack of understanding of teachers and administrators and their unions, of the power of parent groups, especially when riled-up, and of the constitutions of each of the 50 states and of the United States. The Common Core Curriculum should start out in Kindergarten and progress up through the following 13 grade levels over a 14-year implementation cycle. Assessments should be truly common across all CC states, and implemented only after the core curriculum has been in place at each grade level for two or three years. APPR (teacher & principal evaluations) should be disconnected from the Common Core altogether, and the data sharing piece scrapped altogether. One down.... Chris Wendt |
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Post by Chris_Wendt on Apr 23, 2014 10:19:08 GMT -5
Minor housekeeping item, from the top post in this thread... * - In some states and in some large cities, school districts are organized along county lines. But, even in NY, where most school districts are not aligned by county, data can be searched by country.
This it true even on the NYSED BEDS system and their IRS website.
There are some school districts on LI which cross county lines. Those districts are deemed to be located in the county in which the district offices are located.
NYSED has actually numbered all NY school districts starting with a 2-digit county identifier.
All Nassau County-headquartered school districts begin with "28"; Wantagh's District ID is 28-02-23-03-0000.
All Suffolk County School District ID's start with "58"; Babylon is 58-01-01-03-0000, for example.
Now, here is a puzzler! Both Wantagh and Massapequa, in Nassau County, are known as "District 23" to the homeowners and realtors (and prospective home buyers) in their respective villages.
Wantagh is District 28-02-23-03-0000 while Massapequa is District 28-05-23-03-0000. Regards, Chris Wendt |
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Post by rr on Apr 23, 2014 11:12:59 GMT -5
I'm thinking that the 02 in Wantagh may refer to Town of Hempstead and the 05 in Massapequa may refer to Town of Oyster Bay?
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Post by Chris_Wendt on Apr 23, 2014 12:52:31 GMT -5
We have a WINNER! Yes, the 3rd and 4th digits of the BEDS Code refer to the City or Town of the District. For Nassau County, the City/Town designators are: - 01 - City of Glen Cove
- 02 - Town of Hempstead
- 03 - City of Long Beach
- 04 - Town of North Hempstead
- 05 - Town of Oyster Bay
We already know the 1st and 2nd digits of the BEDS Code are the county designator, and the 2nd & 3rd digits are the City/Town designator, and the 5th & 6th digits are the School District Number (for real estate agents and prospective home buyers). The 7th & 8th digits are the "Kind" designator, which for Wantagh and many others is 03, which indicates "Independent Union Free" school district, which has nothing to do with the presence or absence of labor unions, but means that Wantagh is not the product of the merger or consolidation ("union") of two or more other districts, as are Sewanhaka or Bellmore-Merrick, for instance. The "Kind" code includes designators for private and religious schools as well, right down to the religion or denomination of the school. The 9th through 12th digits are reserved to identify individual schools within each school district.. For Wantagh's schools, the building designators are: - 0000 - Entire District
- 0001 - Forest Lake
- 0002 - Mandalay
- 0003 - Next QUIZ Question!
- 0004 - Wantagh School
- 0005 - Wantagh Senior High
- 0006 - Wantagh Middle School
Okay, so what is school building code 0003 in the taxonomy of Wantagh's BEDS Code? Chris Wendt |
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Post by kathyt on Apr 23, 2014 14:46:00 GMT -5
Wee Friends  |
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Post by rr on Apr 23, 2014 14:51:02 GMT -5
Maybe they planned further expansion back in the day!? |
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Post by Chris_Wendt on Apr 23, 2014 19:02:06 GMT -5
I think BEDS Code 280223030003 (school/building code '0003) may have been used for Sunrise Park School. However I am unable to confirm that. The Wee Friends building, formerly the Seymour Avenue School, may also have been building '0003. My recollection is that Sunrise Park was the later of the two used as a school, but the Seymour Avenue building (on Beech Street) more recently used as the District Administrative Offices may have been so used after Sunrise Park closed. Another possibility which I have been able to dismiss, would have '0003 as the designator for "Out of District Placement" students; but there is a BEDS Code for Out of District Placements: '0099. As of 2013 there is no data in Wantagh's school/building code '0003 on the NYSED IRS website or database.
I am going to award you credit for your answer, referring to the Seymour Avenue School, because that is still a school still owned by the District, although not currently part of the school district's enrolled "membership". Sunrise Park no longer exists, and so I doubt NYSED would have a place holder BEDS Code for it.
If anyone else has better or more definitive information about Wantagh's school/building code '0003, please let me know.
Regards,
Chris Wendt
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